There are so many wonderful stories out there of people who are making a difference in the community. Rabbi Eckstein was one of them. The day after I got the opportunity to spend an hour with this amazing man, he sadly died.

How to do those two things and to emphasize Christianity is so difficult. Even within Christianity there were and are some groups who vehemently oppose us. That opposition mainly comes from the Messianic community who feel that they should be the ones to lead this movement of bridging Christians and Jews. However we are the largest organisation with the biggest budget, headed by a rabbi. Even though most of our donors are Christian and we teach at the Christian seminaries all over America.

I once spoke at the House of Lords with Baroness Cox. She cared about refugees, about Israel, about Ethiopians and about the poor. Truth is we as a fellowship have not emphasized or extended our outreach to Western Europe. Why? Firstly because you can't be everywhere and you can only do so much. But secondly because the growth of the movement of Pentecostals and evangelicals is not in Western Europe. It is in the Far East where there are 70 million Chinese born-again Christians.

We also have a program helping persecuted Christians. That is something I cannot believe that Christians themselves don't do more for. We provide for refugees who fled to Jordan from Syria and Iraq. We established two medical clinics in Jordan for Christians at two different churches and we roughly provide half a million to a million dollars a year for food and housing. Christians who fled to Jordan are in a precarious situation, they are not accepted as refugees by UNHCR and so therefore they don't get any of the benefits of refugees. One of the benefits of being a refugee is that you look forward to being resettled in a Western country. But these Christians are not regarded as refugees by the United Nations and so they are not only not being transferred to other Western countries, they are also not allowed to work by the Jordanian government, because they don't want all the refugees taking jobs from the Jordanians.

So here you have roughly 15,000 Christians who fled ISIS and other terrible situations in Syria and Iraq. They fled to Jordan but don't see a way to move forward. For two and a half years they have been sitting there, not regarded to the UN as refugees and unable to work.

I was with some wonderful kids in Jordan a few months ago; an 18 year old guy and a 17 year old girl. Being Christians they stay at home as they can't work, they can't go to school and they don't have a horizon of how and when this will end. So it is important to me personally and to the fellowship that this be a mutual thing; that Jews help Christians, that Christians help Jews and that together we help the needy of any religion.

But you are right for those first 20 years or so I was a pariah in the Jewish community for reaching out to the evangelical community.

There had been Catholic-Jewish dialogue and mainline Protestant-Jewish dialogue with the National Council of Churches. For years the World Council of Churches (going back as far as the 60's, and the Vatican II movement under Pope John XXIII) achieved nothing. So over these years evangelicals became more important, certainly in America they became more politically active and they are the ones who brought in Trump. There is an advisory faith council of evangelicals. So the point is that evangelicals in America, let alone in the Far East and in South America, have grown in numbers, in influence and in impact on political life.

We caught the wave, so to speak. We created or helped to create the wave of Christian Zionism and of Christians together with Jews. Going forward now, we are building a new global headquarters and that will actually be the only Christian visitor centre in Israel.

It's going to be a Christian home. I want Christians from England and everywhere to come to Jerusalem and feel like they have a home here, a spiritual home and that is what this building will do. It offers constant teaching through the internet, TV and radio, to build that relationship between Christians and Jews. Some in the Messianic community still don't like us and try to block us. There are some in the Orthodox Jewish community, mainly here in Israel, who have already lost the war of trying to block us because we are too big and too impactful in every aspect of society.

Everyone knows who we are and we have proven we are bona fide. However, there are still four cities in Israel that won't accept our funds. We help 200 or so cities in Israel including 44 Arab cities. We help all the people of Israel but there are some Haredi right wing Orthodox institutions and cities that refuse to accept our funds or help and it's wrong.

It's wrong for a child to go through the winter without boots and without a coat because the rabbi of that community says you can't accept money from Christians, because Christians hate Jews. So although we have accomplished a lot there is more in the next phase.

Paul: Is it the Bible that is bringing Jews and Christians together?

100% it's the Bible that is the starting point because the Bible isn't political. You can have political disagreements and that is valid. Here in Israel we are going to elections shortly and there are at least a dozen parties, each one differing slightly with one another and forming into two camps. One is called the right and one is called the left.

We have never been in either of those categories, we are centrist. We are bridge builders and the only battle that we would engage in is a battle for shalom, for peace. Somebody once told me this line, "The problem today in our Western World society is that often the committed lack tolerance and the tolerant lack commitment". That is the challenge for us today with the next generation. To help them feel committed and caring for their community, for their faith and their values. But at the same time tolerant and loving of other people even if they totally oppose their opinions and views. To be able to disagree in an agreeable manner.